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On today’s episode, New York Times senior writer David Leonhardt joins Oren Cass for a discussion of “neopopulism,” the realignment of American politics, and a bit of the history that got us here.

For more, read David’s recent Times piece discussing this push for a more responsive politics.

And check out his recent book, Ours Was a Shining Future, about the decisions and missteps that created the modern American economy.